>>109682
Yukari teaches... Evolution 101

Just had a wonderful thought. ANY copypasta could fit there. ANY COPYPASTA AT ALL.

>>109687
I seem to remember someone making a webpage where you could type in whatever you wanted and it would show up on the chalk board.

>>109687
My thought precisely!

Chiyo: "Who wrote that? You've made Sakaki blush!"

In my opinion this one is far more ripe for photoediting than the Yukari version.

>>109689

http://www.cooltrainer.org/Yukariboard/

>>109695
Here's one I made earlier!

>>109700
I'll save myself the editing humiliation.

"POON"

v.c.:klit

>>109692

Managed to get a better version. Enjoy!

>>109682
Yukari teaches Japanese poetry... in English!

:3

Damn ATi Radeon Xpress 200 and damn Ubuntu Gutsy... but I want to use synaptic T_T

>>109822
When does Wubi for 7.10 come out

>>109682

Yukari thinks about the better things in life, like alcohol!

>>109822

Until I see a version of Linux that's easier to install than Windows, has as many easily available device drivers as Windows, and there's as many programs as Windows, then I'll maybe use Linux.

I once tried an experimental install of this OS (can't remember which version, and I don't care!), and the mental scars haven't still healed. Whoever makes these don't exactly make them with Joe & Jane Six Pack in mind! And until they decide to make one with the above criteria (instead of an extremely high learning curve), I'm afraid Linux will stay in it's own little Geek universe, and Windows will always dominate. Because at least Gates & co. have this in mind:

KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID.

Rant over. We now return you to your scheduled /azu/.

>>109893
Lots of people compare installing a dual-boot linux/windows system over the top of an existing windows install with installing windows on a blank drive (or even having windows come with their computer) and conclude that linux is hard to install.

Whereas the correct conclusion is that installing an OS beside another one is hard.

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Also, I find it interesting that only in the field of technology (maybe also sports, but only amongst a certain audience) is cluelessness considered an admirable trait.

>>109893

You're kidding, right?

Windows requires a great deal of computer knowledge to install, as it almost never comes with even half the necessary drivers.

On the other hand, Ubuntu has everything necessary on the first install without a single bit of intervention by the user. There are of course hardware configurations that aren't supported, but the number of these are DRASTICALLY less than Windows.

I still use Windows personally (primarily due to the lack of a replacement for Premiere Pro and Avisynth on Linux), but the claim that Windows is "easier" to install or use than Linux is absurd and completely wrong--perhaps 3 years out of date.

>>109893

Also note that Windows comes with absolutely no facility for dual-booting at all and cannot dual-boot without third-party software. It is literally completely impossible to dual boot using the default installer.

Ubuntu, on the other hand, literally does it automatically if the user selects the appropriate radio button on the menu.

>>109898

Not to mention that every version of Windows so far, when installed, screws up any boot settings you might have had in a bootloader and you need to reinstall/reconfigure it.

>>109893
Ubuntu - at least its last three releases were a breeze to install when compared to windows.

Right now, the 7.10 release had an inspired name - Gutsy Gibbon. That's because even a monkey could install it. Unless you have some weird hardware conflicts, you'll need ZERO configuration. All I needed to do was ONE click, to enable the restricted driver for my FX 5700 nVidia card, everything else went smooth, without me needing to bother with settings.

>>109822

I think that the main problem here is not Ubuntu/Gutsy, but ATI's retarded driver support for everything Linux.

That's the reason I traded this spring a Radeon 9550 for that nVidia card mentioned earlier.

Also, Chiyo approves of Ubuntu, hence Ubuntu = AWESOMENESS.

>>109847
A reworking of that classic oldie...

>>109906
The unfortunate problem is that 'weird hardware conflicts' is another way of saying 'laptop'.

A laptop without wireless is like a car without gas.

A laptop without suspend or hibernate is like a car without wheels.

>Windows requires a great deal of computer knowledge to install, as it almost never comes with even half the necessary drivers.

Jajajajajaja... me rio en español de ti, jajajajaja.

No, srly, wtf dude.

>>109920

I have yet to find a recently made laptop (last 5 years) that had consider trouble with Gutsy. My current laptop, which isn't exactly the most compatible thing out there, worked out of the box with Dapper Drake, and that was ages ago.

>>109924

I installed Windows XP on my laptop. Let me list what it didn't come with:

1. nVidia graphics drivers
2. Sound drivers
3. Touchpad drivers.
4. Mouse drivers.
5. Network AND wireless drivers (so I had to literally sneakernet the drivers onto it!)

Actually, I can't think of anything that it actually did come with! Ubuntu literally came with everything, while with Windows I had to spend over 5 hours trying to find various arcane drivers for certain parts.

>>109932
A bit like this sort of thing????

random linux vs windows argument seems to have developed here :)

As an avid games player, my main system is out-of-my-control forced into windows for compatibility reasons.

However, my broadband router PC and server PC both run linux, due to it being far faster and more stable than windows.

Windows XP can get close to ubuntu for compatibility if you you nLite to slipstream drivers and updates, but if you use a default XP install CD on a modern system the result can be a nightmare*

• try trying to fix an XP install at work on a PC on a domain, but with no network, USB or CD drivers and no install rights due to not being able to see the domain... GAH!

My hope for the future is that cdega, wine or similar gets similar compatability levels to windows for games... that'll start REAL competition in the OS department :)

>>109951

>random linux vs windows argument seems to have developed here :)

This is the only board I know of where this kind of thing happens

>>109822 here.
Well, I still have the problem... but I can no longer go back to Slackware... because I'm now addicted to Synaptic T_T.............

>>109896
Try Puppy Linux. It weights less than 100MB, you do not have to install it and it is the easiest thing to use ever made. It looks like Win95, tho... but it's very useful when repairing systems... not as much as SysRescCD (another fantastic Linux distro), but much more user friendly.
http://www.puppylinux.org/

>>109906

>I think that the main problem here is not Ubuntu/Gutsy, but ATI's retarded driver support for everything Linux.

But of course. You know what sucks, tho? Supposedly, about a month ago, ATi freed their drivers... and the code must be on Novell. That was on September. There are still no functional drivers for me now (last days of october).
How ever, I spent like 2 hours making the driver work under Slackware (ooooold closed source driver); but no, here I am, 3 and a half days after I started, still trying to make the damn thing work under Ubuntu (and I've realized: it also fucks every video I play, damn it to hell). I even tried to compile the Kernel... getting tons of different errors every time I compiled.
I already knew I was going to switch stability to user friendly, but I did not think it would be this bad... nor this early.
I'm thinking on downloading Debian, now T_T...

>>109932
Should have installed off a SP2 disk. If you use XP classic to install, that's like saying "I tried installing Redhat 7.2, and it didn't detect my network card".

>>110109
XD
Oh, you

>>110109

Except that Microsoft gives you no legal method of updating your disk to a more recent version.

>>110123
Sure, and if you give your friend an Ubuntu CD, you need to also give him the corresponding source code, or a written offer valid for three years to supply him with such.

Or, in the real world, we have a principle known as 'de minimis'.

Next straw man, please.

>>110130
only if you SELL it to them

now with paradoxes

>>110131
Erm, no.

It's a common misconception about Free software that the 'Free' is referring to some kind of price. The GPL does not care one jot if you're selling a copy, giving copies away, or offering copies in exchange for sexual favours. (google '"free speech" "free beer"'). If you want to redistribute GPLed works, for profit or for free, you need to comply with section 3.

It's another common misconception that when you noncommercially redistribute a Linux distribution, all you need to do is point people to the distribution's website. People often try to justify this with reference to section 3c. While it's true that you can distribute in this way if someone has made you a (3b) written offer, no extant Linux distribution makes such offers: instead they distribute under 3a, by offering "equivalent access to copy the source code from the same place". You can't offer such access, because it's not your server, and they're not your agent

>>110135

Diamond is the hardest material on earth, but it's also brittle. Therefore, if a diamond car were to crash into a diamond wall, both would shatter.

>>110146
I think you're missing the point here.

The point is that the wall is thicker, while the car is made of many sheets of diamond. Therefore, the wall would stand, while the car would shatter first.

>>110148
I think it would change the diamond car into a diamond Volkswagon Beetle, which would immediately stop, and the wall would then start to move at the same rate as the car.

I know this because I'm a scientist. If you saw me now I'd be in a white coat. Trust me on that, I'm a scientist. I've studied fisicks.

>>110150
All right then, smarty

Where is Dragonforce on the relative hardness scale then

>>110151

Harder than Iron Maiden but not as hard as Diamond Head.

>>110130

Uh, if I want a brand new Ubuntu CD with the latest drivers, its free.

If I want an SP2 XP CD, it will cost me 150 dollars.

>>110135
Diamond is not a metal.

>>109932
My experience, what drivers my brand new laptop needed, XP vs. linux:
XP needed:

• touchpad
• graphics (and i had to get them from a third party site, because nvidia + laptop graphics = fail)
• wireless + wired networking
• all of the weirder accessories, like the webcam, the fingerprint reader, etc.
• most annoyingly, i had to slipstream the windows CD with AHCI drivers so i could install to my SATA hard drive

linux needed:

• wireless
• nvidia drivers
• had to start the install off of a usb key because the CD drive wouldn't work on initial installation. installing the updates right after I was done installing fixed it.

And suspend/hibernate worked out of the box.

Linux was /definitely/ easier to install. But both were a complete pain in the ass and have an awful long way to go.

>>110123

http://www.petri.co.il/windows_xp_sp_slipstreaming.htm

I'm pretty certain this method is legal, as you're just taking your perfectly legal copy of XP, adding a perfectly legal service pack to it, and burning to a blank CD. As long as you're not making a bunch of copies and handing it out to friends, I don't think MS cares. There's lots of sites out there describing this method, just Google "xp slipstream".

Actually, ignore the previous link I posted, use this one instead:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp

>>110175
Tell that to the poor guy behind WindowsUE.
http://www.windowsue.com/ (in spanish).
WindowsUE was a great modification package built around your perfectly legal Win$ and, for a couple of years, it was OK. This year, tho, the sue was maybe too strong or something like that, but there is WindowsUE no more.
I mean, come on, look what happened to Lindows: sued because of the name, bullied until they HAD to give in... and now there is a buck free and a charged (that's worse than the buck free) version of what now is called Linspire. And it was not the only one. Microsoft has been suing everything that moves this year because, as you can see, a lot of us are moving away of the megacorp, to a better future, away, away from viruses and shameless licenses.

Oh, I'm downloading Debian now XD. Let's hope it provides a nice stability... and combined with Synaptic, it'll be great... let's hope... but, if it does not work, I'm going back to Slack o_O

>>110150

>If you saw me now I'd be in a white coat

Oh, yeah, I forgot...
I'll get my white coat
I vc: frillythe you.

>>110173
So did the webcam, fingerprint reader, etc. work in Ubuntu?

>>110179
Of course Lindows got sued over the name.

It was like trying to sell Smepsi Cola, or Pweevi jeans.

What the hell were they thinking would happen?

So I finally got Ubuntu 7.10 in my USB portable drive and even got the X server to cooperate

What do I do now

I think "Linspire" is a better name than "Lindows," in any case.

>>110283
Dance happily because you beat me. I hate you T_T (mh... not really)...
I'm running Debian Etch now. It rocks. Graphics run smoothly, my installer download was less than 180MB, it has the Synaptic I so much wanted... ah, I'm in love. I don't think I'm going to have to migrate ever again. Ah, I sound like such a damn ad...

>>110428
Yeah, that Synaptic is amazing, isn't it

I used a script called Envy (http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html) to get the drivers configured the right way and it worked the first time; it even got the widescreen resolution 1440x900 displayed right

You should use it if you can't figure it out on your own