Koiwai died for our sins. ;_;

And kept a death grip on that umbrella in the process.

WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN Mdon't take my umbrella, bitch.

THIS SUMMER

ONE MAN

ONE WAY

ONE SOLUTION

THIS TIME IT'S PERSONAL

YOU DIE IN THE GAME YOU DIE FOR REAL

IN A CITY WHERE THEY DIDN'T KNOW HIS NAME

THE LEGEND BEGINS

MR. KOIWAI STARS IN

THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION

COMING TO A THEATER NEAR YOU

I like to think the last thing that went through Osaka's head - other than those detachable pigtails - was to wonder how the hell Saata Andagi ever got the best of her.

>>116270

>THIS SUMMER

>ONE MAN

>ONE WAY

>ONE SOLUTION

>THIS TIME IT'S PERSONAL

>>116294

Cue fascist Osaka.

>>116302

Don't be shupid!
Be a shmarty!
Come and join
the Nahtzee Pahtee!

>>116302
And if you complain once more, you'll meet an army of me.

>>116294

THIRD REICH'S CLOSED DUE TO CHURCHILL

>>116374

Go back to your cognac, tubby.

>>116294

>>116387
Stand up and say that. We can't hear you all the way down there.

Churchill, a winner is you.

>>116467
Only the good die young.

>>116468
But then they get reincarnated as a teenage girl's plush doll?

>>116467

Churchill was a buffoon. He was the moron who got Allied armies into useless Mediterranean campaigns in both World Wars. Gallipoli had Churchill's autograph all over it, and he was so stupid he tried the same crap 25 years later with the Italian adventure. He had this obsession with the "soft underbelly of Europe" which conveniently forgot about these things called "mountain ranges," like the Alps and the Apennines.

Churchill's one and only reason for fighting Hitler was that he didn't want Germany challenging England for world domination. In 1936, Churchill told a British general, "Germany is getting too strong; we must smash her." That was his only objection to the Nazis. No way he could have minded their brutality, because Churchill was always in favor of violence against anybody who opposed British interests. Long before the war, he supported using concentration camps for the Boer women and kids, strafing Indian villages--and here's his enlightened democratic quote on how to deal with the Iraqi Kurds, everybody's favorite persecuted minority, from a 1919 memo: “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes. The moral effect should be good… and it would spread a lively terror…”

Not to mention how he was discarded like an old shoe by the parliament right after the war, to spend the rest of his years as a political zero, getting paraded around like a one of the cows from the royal family on waving tours of the countryside. Pathetic.

>>116470
"Not to mention how he was discarded like an old shoe by the parliament right after the war, to spend the rest of his years as a political zero, getting paraded around like a one of the cows from the royal family on waving tours of the countryside."

Eh? He got re-elected in 1951!

>>116470
>>116471

That, and he became a top-selling painter. This little blurtch here sold for over 600,000 Pounds. (Not sure what that is Amurican, but you could probably buy a couple of Big Mac Meals with it.)

BTW, you forgot the Norway campaign (April thru June, 1940.)

>>116472

Well, he totally beat Hitler in that regard. Der Fuhrer only got chump change for his paintings, from what I've heard.

But if it came down to the winner....well, only Stalin and Roosevelt emerged out of the war as leaders of Superpowers...and the former kept his country on a really short leash into the 1950s.

Then again, he was pretty much disavowed afterwards. You hear the Neocons bitch about how FDR ruined the country for some reason or another, but they haven't gone out exhumed his body, and removed his name from streets, cities, ships, etc.

Hard to say.

>>116473
Der Fuhrer couldn't paint, His landscapes where somewhat passable but his portraits where awful.

"GAAAH! I can not get ze faces right! I must kill Europe!"

The man was a reactionary and an imperialist (to him, "imperialist" was not an insult, of course), and ruthless...but one day, not too many years from now, there will be no one left alive who remembers the Second World War, and I'm concerned at the idea spreading that there was really no moral difference between the Allies and the Axis, or their leadership. Even if what we did was often bad, if you don't acknowledge the difference between bad and worse, you can't make moral choices in this world. If the choice is between bad and worse, the moral choice is to pick bad, and to let worse happen by default is immoral.

Having said that, I agree that Allied actions should always be open to question, and not just made into hagiography--otherwise, what good is the freedom we were fighting for? For example, it was bad, wrong, for the Americans to force its citizens of Japanese descent into concentration camps (FDR used the term) based on nothing but ethnicity. It was worse for the Nazis to not only do the same type of thing, but then go further, and deliberately exterminate such "enemies" en masse in such camps.

I think the point is related to the full context of your quote--what Churchill said in full was "It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected."

"Lachrymatory" is a constipated way of saying "tear gas;" while Churchill was being racist (as was FDR) and callous, he was advocating what cops do all the time to break up demonstrations, not the use of gasses designed to maim or kill. I agree with you that one doesn't have to make Churchill into a hero, but again, bad and worse. George Orwell, no friend of Churchill's politics, wrote well about this at the time. Oh, yeah, and Kagura is hot.

Sometimes, I wish Nazis would have won.

>>116475

I would just like to say that in the end, what ended up being used on the Kurd villages was not tear gas but rather White Phosphorous bombs. Nice.

>>116476 Sometimes, I wish politics remained outside of /azu/.

>>116479

Agreed.

>>116476

Osaka not want.

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>>116471

And he got a full state funeral when he died in 1965. Hitler? Became an hero, and burned ignominiously in a pit.

Churchill 3 - Hitler 0

vc: kawck. This is some delicious Kawck. You must... well, you don't have to eat it, but it's there.