I love seinen comics. Not the lolbrainsplattermindfuck kind, but the "moe school girls and loli warm your heart" kind.It always amuses me, though, how the American manga companies market this stuff. Ichigo Mashimaro is for girls. Yes, ignore the lolicon doujinshi that Barasui's done. Chobits is shoujo. Heck, when Dark Horse released the seinen manga translucent, about an 8th-grader, the back cover had the word "shoujo" over and over again, in bold and italiacs each time. That seemed to be over doing it a bit.Cultural differences, yes, but it always amused me. When the clerk is ringing up my cute schoolgirl manga, she shouldn't think it's wierd. I'm the target audience, damnnit.
I love seinen comics. Not the lolbrainsplattermindfuck kind, but the "moe school girls and loli warm your heart" kind.
It always amuses me, though, how the American manga companies market this stuff. Ichigo Mashimaro is for girls. Yes, ignore the lolicon doujinshi that Barasui's done. Chobits is shoujo. Heck, when Dark Horse released the seinen manga translucent, about an 8th-grader, the back cover had the word "shoujo" over and over again, in bold and italiacs each time. That seemed to be over doing it a bit.
Cultural differences, yes, but it always amused me. When the clerk is ringing up my cute schoolgirl manga, she shouldn't think it's wierd. I'm the target audience, damnnit.
you liking cute little girls probably isn't whats weirding (wow it's actual legit word!) the clerk out as much as there is actually a market for that stuff. hell, you should be thankful the publisher's marketing department for saving you some faceand what this has to do with /auz/ I'm not sure
you liking cute little girls probably isn't whats weirding (wow it's actual legit word!) the clerk out as much as there is actually a market for that stuff. hell, you should be thankful the publisher's marketing department for saving you some face
and what this has to do with /auz/ I'm not sure
I always thought it was stranger how ADV always tries to sell Azumanga and Yotsuba as wacky zany Excel Saga random comedies, when the series are really pretty laid back. lol marketing.Also, the clerk thinks you're a weirdo because you're a grown man buying a comic book called "Strawberry Marshmallow" with little girls on the cover, not because the back says it's shoujo (she doesn't know what shoujo means).
I always thought it was stranger how ADV always tries to sell Azumanga and Yotsuba as wacky zany Excel Saga random comedies, when the series are really pretty laid back. lol marketing.
Also, the clerk thinks you're a weirdo because you're a grown man buying a comic book called "Strawberry Marshmallow" with little girls on the cover, not because the back says it's shoujo (she doesn't know what shoujo means).
>>124525>>Get ready for a serious lesson in laughter! Crack open those books, and don't forget your lunch for the first side-splitting volume of Azumanga Daioh!>>Whether it's festivals, a carnival of dreams or a host of crazy cat antics, every moment is sure to be laugh fest! The second kitty-chasing, relay-racing, Osaka-spacing volume of Azumanga Daioh will have you in stitches!>>Second year is in session, and it all adds up to twice the hilarity! Don't skip class and stop playing sick because you can't afford to miss the third hysterical volume of Azumanga Daioh!>>With trips to Hokkaido, Magical Land and a hilarious visit to the local karaoke club, this charming, comical, costumed volume of Azumanga Daioh proves once and for all that time with friends is time well spent!>>And then... the final face-off between Sakaki and the gray cat! The last tests the girls will ever have to take! The last of Yukari's less-than-enlightening lectures! It's all here in the final whacky, wild and whimsical volume of Azumanga Daioh!Man, if all I'd had to go by was what's written on the DVD packaging, I'd never have given this series the time of day.
>>124525
>>Get ready for a serious lesson in laughter! Crack open those books, and don't forget your lunch for the first side-splitting volume of Azumanga Daioh!>>Whether it's festivals, a carnival of dreams or a host of crazy cat antics, every moment is sure to be laugh fest! The second kitty-chasing, relay-racing, Osaka-spacing volume of Azumanga Daioh will have you in stitches!>>Second year is in session, and it all adds up to twice the hilarity! Don't skip class and stop playing sick because you can't afford to miss the third hysterical volume of Azumanga Daioh!>>With trips to Hokkaido, Magical Land and a hilarious visit to the local karaoke club, this charming, comical, costumed volume of Azumanga Daioh proves once and for all that time with friends is time well spent!>>And then... the final face-off between Sakaki and the gray cat! The last tests the girls will ever have to take! The last of Yukari's less-than-enlightening lectures! It's all here in the final whacky, wild and whimsical volume of Azumanga Daioh!
Man, if all I'd had to go by was what's written on the DVD packaging, I'd never have given this series the time of day.
>>124525>I always thought it was stranger how ADV always tries to sell Azumanga and Yotsuba as wacky zany Excel Saga random comediesI assume you mean Excel Saga anime. Excel Saga manga is another victim of shitty marketing, since they still begin every back cover text by saying how the manga has stuff in it the anime director didn't DARE to put in the anime. While that is true in a sense, it purposefully makes readers expect the manga to be all final episode of the anime with WACKINESS and OMGRANDOM. When they discover ir isn't and it doesn't even have the funnay (ie. unnecessary and annoying) characters like Pedro and the puchuus, they think it's shit, which is a shame because the manga is a real gem and in many ways a lot better than the anime./rant
>I always thought it was stranger how ADV always tries to sell Azumanga and Yotsuba as wacky zany Excel Saga random comedies
I assume you mean Excel Saga anime. Excel Saga manga is another victim of shitty marketing, since they still begin every back cover text by saying how the manga has stuff in it the anime director didn't DARE to put in the anime. While that is true in a sense, it purposefully makes readers expect the manga to be all final episode of the anime with WACKINESS and OMGRANDOM. When they discover ir isn't and it doesn't even have the funnay (ie. unnecessary and annoying) characters like Pedro and the puchuus, they think it's shit, which is a shame because the manga is a real gem and in many ways a lot better than the anime.
/rant
Don't worry OP, you can just pirate everything instead. That's better anyway because then the government can't form a psychological profile based on what you buy. At least, until they finish developing their AI so it can scan the records collected by your ISP of everything you've ever done on the Internet. I may or may not know what I'm talking about.
>>124488> When the clerk is ringing up my cute schoolgirl manga, she shouldn't think it's wierd. The clerk in the US might think "weird". The clerk in Japan will think "otaku" and that is several light years beyond "weird". These are the> Cultural differencesyou're talking about.
>>124488
> When the clerk is ringing up my cute schoolgirl manga, she shouldn't think it's wierd.
The clerk in the US might think "weird". The clerk in Japan will think "otaku" and that is several light years beyond "weird". These are the
> Cultural differences
you're talking about.
I don't actually much care for most moe school girl seinen manga. I usually prefer the stuff that really is shoujo.Well, not that it probably makes much of a difference for the store clerks whether it's Ichigo Mashimaro or Sugar Sugar Rune that that weirdo with the mullet and the goatee is buying.
I don't actually much care for most moe school girl seinen manga. I usually prefer the stuff that really is shoujo.
Well, not that it probably makes much of a difference for the store clerks whether it's Ichigo Mashimaro or Sugar Sugar Rune that that weirdo with the mullet and the goatee is buying.
>>124529Touché.
>>124529
Touché.
>>124527Yes. Thank you. That is correct. That thing has always amazed me as well. While there are sometimes "random" stuff in the ES manga(mostly the extra chapters with unrelated stories), the things they didn't "dare" put in the anime are probably the social satire, which can't be broadcasted in a public TV channel. The only thing the ES anime has in common with the books is that some characters have the same names.The anime is only based on the first three books, which is why the first episodes are relatively normal. After that, it's all Nabeshin's show.Uh, I think I have to post this to keep it somewhat related. Sorry for even longer rant, but the ES manga is one of my absolute favs.Also shameless plug: I will have some fanart featured in book 18, don't miss it :>
>>124529I'm fairly sure that manga doesn't nearly have as much otaku stigma as anime. Everyone reads manga. Otaku watch anime.Of course, the fact that it's a manga about little girls still leaves it up in the air...
I'm fairly sure that manga doesn't nearly have as much otaku stigma as anime. Everyone reads manga. Otaku watch anime.
Of course, the fact that it's a manga about little girls still leaves it up in the air...
>>124502I guess it's relevant because Azu is 1) aimed at boys, not girls, despite its genre and characters (see the first MSLNanoha), and 2) hillariously mismarketed by the American localisers.While we're talking about comics, check out CPM's covers. They don't misdescribe the contents, insult the reader's intelligence, or play host to a half-page of 'wacky' blurb that looks like they got their copywriter from fanfiction.net .
>>124502I guess it's relevant because Azu is 1) aimed at boys, not girls, despite its genre and characters (see the first MSLNanoha), and 2) hillariously mismarketed by the American localisers.
While we're talking about comics, check out CPM's covers. They don't misdescribe the contents, insult the reader's intelligence, or play host to a half-page of 'wacky' blurb that looks like they got their copywriter from fanfiction.net .
>>124584I never saw it that way. It never struck me as a series that was aimed specifically at males for a particular reason.Most titles featured in Dengeki Daioh seem to be story driven than most series out there. Even though AD is character driven with lose plot, it still seemed a cut above than other series that relied on fan service to sell
>>124584I never saw it that way. It never struck me as a series that was aimed specifically at males for a particular reason.
Most titles featured in Dengeki Daioh seem to be story driven than most series out there. Even though AD is character driven with lose plot, it still seemed a cut above than other series that relied on fan service to sell
So you're saying that even though it's true the manga contains things they didn't dare put in the anime, it's bad for the covers to phrase it that way, because the average ES anime fan is going to interpret that to mean "like the last episode, but going even farther" when what it actually means is social and political satire.
>>124593Something like that. The manga has none of the "random, wacky, zany" or whatever that the anime has, but instead much more clever parody. I do like some episodes of the anime, but Puuchuus, Pedro and "That man", among others, just have nothing to do with it.
I didn't really think about what they said on the back cover before. I assumed that since the manga keeps going (in America anyway, they announced a Vol. 18) years after the anime finished, it was selling OK. Do you think they should change what they say on the back or does it matter at this point?
>>124595Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't most social/political satire completely embarrasing to read/watch at least ten years after the source material's production?
>>124598It doesn't really matter, since we don't know much about it. But things are explained in the back of the book, so it's more like reference humor anyway. Also, the dialogue and plot are brilliant. Bizarre things are happening, but they are presented in quite a matter-of-factly way, not "in your face".
>>124598Good satire never goes old. Case in point: British TV series Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime minister. Both were made in the 80s and they're still good.
>>124598
Good satire never goes old. Case in point: British TV series Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime minister. Both were made in the 80s and they're still good.
>>124610shut up
>>124610>Good satire>British TV>still goodLies.
>>124610
>Good satire>British TV>still good
Lies.
Wait, wait, wait. Hold up, guys.They have TV in Britain?
Wait, wait, wait. Hold up, guys.
They have TV in Britain?
I thought all british tv shows had men dress up as old ladies?
I remember my Mom telling me about a certain Christmas gift she got me...Mom: Do you have Azumanga Daioh?Clerk: Oh yeah, little girls love that show!Mom: ... it's for my 20-year-old son.Clerk: ... Oh, that's cool, I watch it all the time... o_0'And yes, the marketing sucked. Kind of hard to market Azu, though... maybe if they instead focused on capturing each amusingly dysfunctional character... but that would be difficult.
I remember my Mom telling me about a certain Christmas gift she got me...
Mom: Do you have Azumanga Daioh?Clerk: Oh yeah, little girls love that show!Mom: ... it's for my 20-year-old son.Clerk: ... Oh, that's cool, I watch it all the time... o_0'
And yes, the marketing sucked. Kind of hard to market Azu, though... maybe if they instead focused on capturing each amusingly dysfunctional character... but that would be difficult.
>>124615Only the good ones.
The Breakfast Club of this generation...
>>124610But satire is only amusing when you know what it's about. Satire from other countries generally makes no sense. Example: The Chaser's War on Everything. The plain humour is funny, as is the 'Ad road test', where they show the advert before they reeneact it. But a lot of the satire segments just come across as ambushing some Australian in the street for no reason. Only the really high-profile stuff, like John Howard, or the gay-only nightclub they try to get Tinky Winky into, makes any sense to us foreign types.And the bit where they ambush John Edward while dressed as Ghostbusters, only to be 'defeated' by the high levels of bullshit emanating from him was awesome.
>>124610But satire is only amusing when you know what it's about. Satire from other countries generally makes no sense.
Example: The Chaser's War on Everything. The plain humour is funny, as is the 'Ad road test', where they show the advert before they reeneact it. But a lot of the satire segments just come across as ambushing some Australian in the street for no reason. Only the really high-profile stuff, like John Howard, or the gay-only nightclub they try to get Tinky Winky into, makes any sense to us foreign types.
And the bit where they ambush John Edward while dressed as Ghostbusters, only to be 'defeated' by the high levels of bullshit emanating from him was awesome.
>>124528>At least, until they finish developing their AI so it can scan the records collected by your ISP of everything you've ever done on the InternetI'm screwed.'I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, and what I am proud of is disgusting'
>>124528
>At least, until they finish developing their AI so it can scan the records collected by your ISP of everything you've ever done on the Internet
I'm screwed.
'I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, and what I am proud of is disgusting'
>>124675I thought I told you to shut up
For me "Yotsuba" looks very similar to "Calvin and Hobbes". Won't you say that "Calvin" is intended for small kids only?
>>124699Haha different anonymii fail.
>>124708Everyone thinks that their wife is beautiful, their children smart, and their children's work a family one, entertaining to people of all ages.
>>124710Says you, my wife looks and smells like a bucket of medical waste and my kids are st stupid they regularly try to eat rocks.[Disclaimer: Social Disaster is not married, does not have kids, and is a liar.]
>>124710Says you, my wife looks and smells like a bucket of medical waste and my kids are st stupid they regularly try to eat rocks.
[Disclaimer: Social Disaster is not married, does not have kids, and is a liar.]
>>124675Moreover, for the same reason, Meet the Spartans for example is probably pretty embarrasing to watch right now (or so I heard), but imagine someone watching it ten years later and having no idea what all the references are about.So, um, good satire never goes old, bad satire just gets even worse?
>>124675Moreover, for the same reason, Meet the Spartans for example is probably pretty embarrasing to watch right now (or so I heard), but imagine someone watching it ten years later and having no idea what all the references are about.
So, um, good satire never goes old, bad satire just gets even worse?
>>124714"Meet the Spartans" (like many similar movies) isn't a satire. It's probably coser to a bad parody. (See the link for a more detailed explanation.)
>>124741Or maybe a bad pastiche.
>>124741>>124742I think the word you're looking for is "spoof".Meet the Spartans is a bad spoof.
>>124748 According to the provided link, "spoof" and "parody" are synonymous.
>>I love seinen comics.ざわ。。。ざわ。。。
>>I love seinen comics.
ざわ。。。ざわ。。。
>>124488 What would be the name of that loli doujin Barasui made? I had no idea he made one. I'm always interested in his work.
>>124805According to Wikipedia, he at least did work for this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_Dearest_My_Brother
>>124806 That's no more loli than Ichigo Mashimaro though.
>>124808