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241080 No.88391  

What was that about there being no new material, just new audiences?

>> No.88401  

Well, it's somewhat of a classic scene, I guess.

>> No.88410  

You guys are way too forgiving. Posting this on 4chan equals shitstorm generator.

>> No.88415  
  • Konata always asked for Kagami's notes. Osaka never asked for Chiyo's.
  • Konata is asking only Kagami. Osaka is asking everyone.
  • Konata, being smart as she is, surely can do the homework by herself; only she's lazy. Osaka can't because she's lazy AND dense.
  • The context in both situations are unrelated.
>> No.88417  

>>88415
GTFO. Logic, context, and facts are unwelcomed on our Internets. >:(

>> No.88418  

>>88410
Shall we, then?

>> No.88422  

>>88418
rofl someone already did.

>> No.88426  

>>88422
Good god, what have I wrought?

(For the record, I'm not the one who posted this in /a/, although I am the one who made the original image).

From the /a/ thread:

>To the OP: you're a stupid ignorant and a failed troll.

What's ironic is that I actually like Lucky Star. I just thought it was an amusing coincidence -slash- plagiarism/homage/whatever.

>> No.88431  

I don't like Lucky Star. The art is crappy and the jokes are unamusing.

And I actually looked forward to it thinking: "Wow, sounds like it'll be as good as Azumanga! ^_^". :(

Just my 0.02$.

>> No.88433  

Isn't it kinda unfair to compare two animes together that are based on the same thing?

I mean come on, how original can you get with an anime that is based off of highschool?

>> No.88434  

Comparing any anime to Azumanga is unfair to the other anime.

>> No.88449  

>>88426
Irony might be the word you're looking for

This is exactly the opposite of my case with Haruhi

>> No.88451  

>>88449
Didn't I say it was ironic?

What was your case with Haruhi?

>> No.88457  

>>88451
I didn't like it as much as others

In this case I do, and I see myself in the few dissenters

In any case, a few things went unconsidered here

  • Situations like these happen all the time in the physical world, in similar format
  • This could be an indirect reference (see episode 4, the Konata makes consecutive tardies)
  • Implicitity
>> No.88490  

>>88431

ME LIKEY "Lucky Star". If this adds to the (modest) wealth of simple, gently comedic & cute 'slice of life' anime, a la "Azumanga Daioh", "Pani Poni Dash", "Sensei no Ojikan" et al, then it has already justified it's existence.

...that and the fact it's OP line being 'Eye My Sausage' (which cracks me up & generally appeals to my Double-Entendre sense!) makes it OK in my book!

vc - fi (To those who poo-poo "LS", I say 'Fi[e] to you! There's plenty of other series to watch'

>> No.89020  

Saying that an anime is good just because is falls into a certain genre is the about lamest praise I could think of. Actually it's more like stabbing the anime into its back.

The cast shows almost no sign of characterization, except if you mistake "being obsessed with all things otaku" with a character.

Comedy is almost absent. Rapid fire anime references =/= comedy. You make a random scene and put a poster of Captain Harlock in the background. And then the crowd goes "Hahaha! There is Captain Harlock in the background. This is great comedy, because there is Captain Harlock in the background. Plus, I'm an advanced otaku to recognize Captain Harlock when I see him."

Morons.

>> No.89021  

>>88490

PaniPoni Dash was horrible. It's like a combination of Excel Saga and Azumanga Daioh, except minus everything that made them both good. The characters are completely impossible to empathize with or even like; there's nearly no characterization. The jokes aren't even funny, and the references aren't even made in a funny manner. Its just a bad gag series that has more humor in its first 2 minutes of the first episode (the Planet of the Apes parody) than the rest of the series combined.

The thing that makes Azumanga Daioh good is that its a slice of life comedy that:

a) Is actually funny.
b) Has characters that seem "real" and can be empathized with.

Character comedy, with useless characters, is not character comedy.

>> No.89023  

One can tell a lot about a person by the way they react to slice-of-life, comedic anime. One should have enough humility to at least say that their sense of humor is different but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's unfunny. It certainly is funny to those who are laughing.

On the question of characterization, it's a cartoon comedy show.

>> No.89028  

>>89023

"Slice of life" comedy anime bases its jokes off the characters. If the characters suck, the comedy sucks, and the anime sucks.

>> No.89029  

I'd check out lucky star if the characters didn't look like 5 year olds.

>> No.89030  

>>89028
You seem to have trouble understanding what I wrote. Because you aren't laughing doesn't mean it's unfunny, kid.

And you are absolutely wrong in your definition of slice-of-life. That genre finds it's humor in everyday life, regardless of character.

>> No.89032  

What have anime references to do with everyday life? Or with humor?

>> No.89034  
> One can tell a lot about a person by the way they react to slice-of-life, comedic anime. One should have enough humility

Ah, the old "you aren't intellectually advanced enough to see the greatness of show X" argument.

First of all, absence of plot doesn't equal "slice of life". Otherwise about every porno flic would be "slice of life".

The important term here is "of life". Niea_7 is slice of life. Because despite the appearance of aliens it manages to look like being taken from life about 1000 times better than LS.

LS isn't "slice of life", it's "episodic comedy". Just without the comedy.

And PPD, don't let me get started talking about that.

>> No.89036  

>>89021

I, for one, found myself really liking the characters of Pani Poni Dash, and frankly cannot understand where all these accusations of "unlikability" come from. In fact, I would even go as far as to say that the characters were the best aspect of PPD. Additionally, I really enjoyed the whole series overall. So fie on you guys, I say! Fie!

As for Lucky Star, the food conversation in episode 1 was utter brilliance, but beyond that it's been an awfully bland and boring experience so far. Some of Konata's otakuisms are rather amusing, but most of the jokes leave me thinking "That's it? That was supposed to be funny?" Also, Kagami needs to die in a fire.

>> No.89037  

>>89034
No, imbecile. I accept the fact that people have different tastes. You seem to believe that your ideas of what is comedic are universal. You should look into what "humility" is, because anybody who believes that they are in possession of the knowledge of what "The Funny" is seriously needs it.

As for your second point, slice-of-life and "episodic comedy" aren't mutually exclusive. You should know that. The cartoon in question depicts the everyday life of a group of girls. That's it. It's slice-of-life, and I don't know of anyone else disputing that categorization. I never said that all series which lack a plot are slice-of-life. There are plenty of stories like that which do have a plot.

Fine, you think that one series is funnier than Lucky Star. Now, as someone who is mature enough, I'll accept that you have a different point-of-view and move on...

>> No.89046  

There's quite a bit of drama a-brewin' in this thread. Let me dissipate it.

If an anime 'floats your boat', then watch it, savour it, enjoy it - treasure it.

If (IYO) an anime 'sucks', don't watch any more of it, and delete any & all eps you've downloaded. It's as simple as that.

I downloaded the first few eps of "Naruto" when it first hit the 'Net, and after watching eps. 1 & 2, I realised it was stereotypical 'Shonen-Jump'-esque fare, in which one could guess that the main oprotagonist WOULD ultimately achieve his ambition, thus watching more would be a pointless waste of time. But at least I don't go around continually griping about it (except my being evangelistic in my pointing out the fact that "2X2=Shinobuden" is vastly SUPERIOR to "Naruto" in EVERY way!).

And there's the other series that, dependent on individual taste, you'll fall in love with from ep. 1, and you'll devour every subsequent ep. after that. As it was for me, with the likes of "xxxHOLiC", "Sokyuu no Fafner", "Stratos 4", "MGLN/A's/StrikerS" & others - including 'slice-of-life' series such as "Sensei no Ojikan", "Pani Poni Dash", "Lucky Star" & "Azumanga Daioh".

In summation - the animation companies in Japan won't care and/or even acknowledge the existence of our/your opinions, here or anywhere else. After all, they're creating these series for a market in which the consumers' attitudes/sense of humour/social mores are different to ours - certainly not for Western markets; if they DID create them purely for Western viewers' tastes, sense of humour & morality (certainly in the US), then it wouldn't be Anime (or at least, not as we know it, Jim!). It's precisely because of at least 80% of American animation being of a generic/stereotypical/anodyne nature, that I don't even bother with most of what comes from the US, therefore I watch mostly Anime.

vc - chi (And because American studios (Disney, take note!) wouldn't do something along the lines of "Chobits", with Gratuitous Fanservice - or even a decent thought-provoking plot, that I reject most US cartoons)

>> No.89053  
> 89037

And I repeat: it does not display "everyday life" nor does it aim to do that. The absence of male characters is proof enough. It's a moe show aiming to display moe. Admit it and go on.

And maybe it's a different kind of comedy and maybe drying paint is also a different kind of comedy but I at least (not really "at least" since I'm not the only one here) do not get why repeated and thus not even surprising anime/game/manga reference should be "funny". But there were also people who still laughed when Excel fell into the pit for the 101st time, so it's OK.

And @misha: I'm not American, nor is the majority on this planet or in "the West" American, nor are the American networks' ideas of "moral" anyhow representative for "the West". But if the alternatives are American puritanism or degradation of women a la Chobits than I take American puritanism any time. Your problem with women who aren't willing to submit are well-known here. I advice you to import a girl from some third world country if you haven't done that already.

>> No.89056  

>>89037

Aren't you being mature, getting so hostile over a cartoon. Saying Lucky Star is unfunny is not an attack on you or your sense of humour. It's an opinion that doesn't come with a disclaimer.

>> No.89087  

>>89053

>Your problem with women who aren't willing to submit are well-known here.

oh good god did I lol'd, I can't read this sentence and not crack up

>I advice you to import a girl from some third world country if you haven't done that already.

can we do it on eBay?

note: I ain't gonna take sides in this flamewar, and don't want to insult noone, but this was so fun to read..

>> No.89088  

Azumanga Daioh is probably my top favorite anime, with Oh My Goddess! and El-Hazard close behind.

I found Excel Saga to be wildly uneven and disappointing overall. And I gave up on Pani Poni Dash after sampling two episodes. On the other hand, Haruhi Suzumiya was the best new anime for me since AzuDai.

I've been busy in RL, and my interest in anime tends to be Narrow And Deep, and so I know little of this Lucky Star of which you speak. It doesn't sound like it's for me, but I'll sample two episodes of almost anything and give it a chance.

And in conclusion, sataa andagi.

>> No.89109  

>>89053
I didn't say it wasn't a moe show. Slice-of-life shows can be moe. A lot Japanese shows can be moe.

>>89056
I'm calling you an imbecile because you can't read.

>> No.89121  

>>89109

This is a post by a mature person. (It wasn't even me who argued with you. I actually like Lucky Star.)

>> No.89126  

>>89053
HAHAHA OH WOW...

When talking about Japan, everyplace that is not Japan and the immediate surrounding areas are "The West". Don't go hounding some European superiority complex on us now, all of Europe is pretty damn different form Japan just as US is different from japan.

"Everyday life" does not have to include EVERY ASPECT of life, Lucky Star follows the life of these four girls. The lack of guys is because IT'S NOT THEIR SHOW. Besides there is a guy, Shiraishi.

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@thread

>> No.89132  

>>89121
My assertion still stands. Why should I not be able to call you imbeciles in such a trivial debate with such idiots? Fine, I'm immature. I'm im-fucking-mature. There. So sorry if it offended you. So sorry if it distracted you from everything else in this thread.

>> No.89136  

>>89132

Thank you, I am now satisfied.

>> No.89142  
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>> No.89144  

>>89142
so very very true

>> No.89165  

>>89144
yeah i find that besides wanting to look like a clone of the pink haired meganeko, i find nothing about this show interesting, id rather watch powerpuff girls Z

>> No.89171  

>>89053
fucking rofl,
i think your thinking of japan with the saturated sexism, in america, things may not be in any way shape or form perfect(or even good), but we are leagues above seeing women as slaves.the main problem with womens undeserved place
in society stems mostly from education, something that in america(and probably every other country) is broken.

what pisses me off is you who admittedly dosent live in america waltzes in and acts like we havent made any more progress than cave people.

>> No.89190  
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>>89171
What the hell is that supposed to mean?

>> No.89193  

>>89190
Hahaha good show anonymous!

>> No.89196  

>>89193

this thread should be about Geico™ cavemen.

>> No.89203  

The Geico cavemen sicken me.

They live in present day, can clearly operate machinery, live in mansions, and are more cultured than me (wtf is mango salsa?).

They are clearly not cavemen at all. AT ALL. They're just very ugly people. The Jetsons were better cavemen than these people. All these guys have is slight hair growth on their faces, which they seem to think lets them get to play the race card. All they have wrong with them is they're uglier than average and can't get car insurance.

They're a disgrace to real cavemen, which are proud and mighty people. Hell, they're a disgrace to the Flintstones even.

I'd demand that they change it to "even a very ugly person could do it," but I want them to stew in their own hideous failures. I will turn off my tv if i even see the commercial come on.

When i heard that they had their own tv pilot lined up, I was immediately blinded with rage and it was the one time in my twenty-odd years that i genuinely needed a beer.

>> No.89206  
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>>89203

Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer

>> No.89215  
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>>89087

'I ain't gonna take sides in this flamewar, and don't want to insult noone, but this was so fun to read..'

Don't blame you, Medicine Man-sama. Just shows how some can take things you say out of context; I don't know if those who did so are American, but if so, it proves that most Americans have no concept of irony.

Anyway, have a Chibisaka.

>> No.89216  

>>89215
I love irony, meta-references and the American Dream

>> No.89233  
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26335

>>89215
Yay, Chibisaka! Thanks, I'll take good care of her.
>>89216
I realy love Norman Mailer's An American Dream.

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>>88410
>>88431
>>88434
>>89053*
>>89171
>>89203
*- Especially this poster

To borrow a (past) quote from Sam and OMG HAX:

'Welcome to the world of fandom, please leave your common sense, any sense of prudishness, and any knowledge of breast physics with the door attendent, and he will throw them away.'

And above all:

'Internet. Serious Business.'

>>89053

FYI, I can tell the difference between fantasy & reality (in that I DON'T treat women in RL as I would in my imagination; for one thing, I value my freedom, and furthermore, in the cases of the likes of Yomi, Sakaki, Urd, Konai & other characters, I'd worship them as goddesses! - *literally, in Urd's case!). Apparently those responsible for the Columbine Massacre couldn't (in their case, differentiate between using guns - & their effects of such - in "DOOM" & in RL). And THAT'S the difference.

>>89233

Glad you likey. To defuse things further, have a Chbikaki...

>> No.89252  
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54407

>>89251

...a Chibitomo

vc - bith (I loev chibith to Bith!)

>> No.89253  
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56280

>>89252

...A Chibiomi

>> No.89254  
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61877

>>89253

...A Chi(b)yo

:3

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55147

>>89254

...A Chibigura

>> No.89256  
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>>89255

...A Chibiukari

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>>89256

...And even a Chibiyot.



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