>>195811
I'm sorry to have to be so harsh, but that's almost as bad as The Downward Spiral.

Doesn't sound like something I'd want to read, but I can just not read it. If you wanna write it, just write it.

>>195812
Damn, ouch.

>>195811
If you want them to end up crying in each other arms, then instead use something simple like tomo's prank goes bad and osaka ends up in hospital etc., you can work with that on character development.

Osaka's behavior is more like ADD.

>>195811
>>195818
Obligatory picture

Osaka's behavior does seem kind of like ADD, which I'm pretty sure is usually treated with stimulants.

She almost seems like an aspie, but she doesn't have the same anger issues people with ass burgers have.

I should know, cuz I haz ass burgerz.

>>195837
She also seems pretty good at reading facial expressions and body language.

PROTIP: ADD is treated with uppers, not downers.

I go along with the observation that the problem isn't Osaka can't focus on a problem, but that she focuses on something to such a degree that for that moment nothing else in the outer world can intervene. The exact opposite of ADD!

>>195875
No, that's still ADD. Having your mind wander onto completely random subjects and coming up with nonsensical answers is one of ADD's side effects.

>>195875

Take it from someone who has ADHD, she certainly has ADD or something very similar. After watching the first episode I was like "holy fuck, she's me without the hyperactivity."

It's not really that you can't focus on something if you set your mind to it, it's just that everything around you seems of equal priority. So, in a way, a car driving right at you at 50 mph seems to be just as important to focus on as the butterfly flying by. It's like people with ADD/ADHD don't have a "priority filter" between their senses and their brains which filters out the passing butterfly.

At OP, I used to take meds. They can't really be classified as depressants or uppers, they're just more or less designed to help you focus by trying to restore that priority filter thing. They also work against the hyperactivity, because it also helps filtering out the lesser important movements. I started using them when I was 3 or something and never stopped until I realized they fucked around with my personality. I got really panicky and depressed, didn't stand up for myself, and was never really accepted socialy. The only thing that it did right was stopping most of the hyperactivity really. Anyway, the depressing thing seems plausible enough to me.

By the way, to normal people, the meds I took work like a sort of speed. I never really understood why, but that's what I was told by my doctor.

I have ADD - Anime Distraction Disorder. Everytime i need to do some work i have this huge urge to watch some anime instead.

>>195900
I lol'd. If I took the time I devoted to anime and used it in RL, I'd be soooooo bored and depressed :)

You know what i think it is, some people think faster, and get bored that much easier.

Imagine if you programmed a computer to get "bored" and increasingly reduce it's work on programs the more of it's cycles aren't being used. (like an idle function that interferes with other processes.) With that type of programming, the best computer would preform the worst.

Or some people's minds are just that choosy about what to focus on. Either way i think these particular mental "Diseases" or "disorders" are ideas invented for little purpose outside of selling drugs.

>>195896
Pharmaceuticals "restore" nothing. they can only disable something else to compensate. some work by preventing brain chemicals from being discarded normally. It's not that they MAY impair mental function so much as impairing mental function is how they work to begin with.

ADD is frequently misunderstood as an inability to concentrate; it is better understood as an inability to choose when to concentrate, and what to concentrate on. One frequent result is the state of "hyperfocus" where the ADD individual concentrates too well on some aspect of his internal or external environment and neglects other aspects that are just as important if not more.

I believe the leading medical hypothesis is still that in ADD sufferers, a region of the brain which controls the ability to block out distracting inputs is underactive compared to "normal" people. Stimulant medication (and nearly all medication for ADD is stimulant in nature) increases the activity of this region of the brain, thus increasing the person's ability to block out distracting inputs (including distracting trains of thought.)

As far as people who consider ADD and similar conditions to be "invented for little purpose outside of selling drugs", I do not think you would continue to think so if you've seen some of the cases I've seen. One particular striking case was a young woman who was quite intelligent, and could talk quite insightfully about a complex situation, as long as she wasn't interrupted. If you or I were talking and someone listening to us made a "mm-hmm" sound of agreement, we would take it in our stride and continue. She couldn't do that; it immediately broke her train of thought. Many of the people in her life erroneously thought she was a space cadet, simply because they could not give her the space and quiet she needed to think.

Statistically, those who are treated for ADD are less likely to abuse illegal drugs, so I must say I find the OP's scenario of Osaka having to go to a club for illegal drugs as some sort of end result of taking legally prescribed medications quite implausible. But since the OP's plot involves Tomo outwitting/outgunning the Yakuza, I suspect that real-world plausibility is not the point.

She obviously suffers from a mental disorder. Remember reading a medical journal article (don't ask) stating that mental illness in Japan has the lowest rates of treatment in the developed world.

>>195875
You've clearly never watched someone with ADD play video games. Or, more precisely, you weren't trying to get his attention at the time.

>>195968
Oh lord, I know what you mean, a friend of mine with ADD is fond of MMORPGS.

>>195972
Did somebody mention me?

I can also tell you, from person experience, that ADD makes it difficult to deal with conflicting instructions-- for instance, if your mother tells you to do one thing and, on your way to do that, your father tells you to do something else. (It doesn't have to be your parents; it could be any two people with equal authority.)

Multitasking, or simply switching from one task to another, is also pretty difficult.

>>196030
QFT!
My simple office jobs seem impossible because 5 different people ask me to do something all at once. I only still have the job because my boss is a long-time family-friend. @_@

>>196043
Are you an EMT by any chance?

op here.
I'm actually slightly autistic myself.I love handling dry spaghetti and diving my hands into a bag or dry pasta or beans, feeling them shift between my fingers. I can relate to Osaka sometimes with her unprioritized attention focus.

In fact, I love her. Not just in a sexual way, but a truly loving way too.

I wish to hold her in my arms after a nice dinner at a restaurant of her choice, to hear her satisfied laughter, and feel her body heat.

She is the one for me. I feel silly and flighty when I see her face, hear her distinct accent, and watch or see her in the anime or manga. She would never fail to make me happy, and I would try my best to make her happy.

Osaka willing, we would make love, and enjoy the experience immensely. To comfort her when she is sad or confused between escalators and elevators.

Someday, I will find her. Then we can be together. I'll make a body pillow in her heart-melting image and perhaps take her to anime conventions.

it's up to her of course.

She is my waifu, forever.

As for Osaka being your waifu, I believe I was here first.

I don't know if it's this way for any other ADD types, but I find that in order to pay attention to something, I have to...this is hard to explain...sort of not pay attention to it while I'm doing it. It's not enough to remove other distractions, I have to also not think about the task at hand, either, just do it. I almost feel like I'm not capable of deliberately paying attention to it, I sort of have to do it without contemplating it. Even so, this trick only works for maybe ten minutes at a time, but otherwise I can't focus for even one minute.

>>196082

>>sort of not pay attention to it while I'm doing it

Yes. Yes, that's exactly it! That's the key!

(And I wondered why I identified with Osaka so much!)

>>196044

Ironically, EMT is one job people with ADD often do better than the general population - the sudden rush of adrenaline from an emergency situation has a similar effect to Ritalin or other stimulant medication and brings them to the peak of their emergency-handing skills.

>this thread

>>196044

pft, no.

I don't know if i have autism or not, i just like shiny things, have weird taste in music and have spent whole yesterday shouting 'puchi chiizu'. I love that! Puchi chiiiiizu...

>>196106
I think that just makes you a spaz.

>>196110
What a relief! Thank you, /azu/!

>>196082
I'm "diagnosed" with one or the other, and that description seems to fit the "getting bored quickly" deal. if it's simple enough, it can be done along with other things, but a sole focus attempts to use ALL the brain's function on something that comes nowhere near something that needs or can use a reasonable amount of mental process, much less a full mind's worth of activity. It becomes boring that much faster because the mind CRAVES something to do.

Here's a good comparison, Turn on whatever videogame you like, let it run attract mode.

Now, with that running where you can see and hear it, stare at a digital clock. not an analog clock, especially not one with a second hand. Preferably, the digital clock will not have a blinking colon to indicate seconds.

See how long you can focus on something that predictably changes only once every sixty seconds while something compelling and interactive beckons.