When I got it, there was the slightest hint of booze on it. Perhaps beer was spilled on it.

I like your blanket.

>>206092
as it should be

>>206092
That's when you know it's the real thing.

Are you a girl? if not... just don't, please.

Post pictures of you wearing it, you tease.

Hand made. Sense of style. Love it.

Where can I buy one?

Yukari only ever wore that sweater in like one episode, didn't she? How did it come to be so strongly associated with her?

>>206091

Very nice!

Now, for your next order...

>>206127

It's distinctive, it looks good on her, and it appears in the very first color page of the manga?

>>206122
Well, as a guy, I wouldn't want to be caught dead owning that quilt it's sitting on.

But that's just me.

vc:chow

Op here. I'll try to take pics this week and I'll post some here. The girl I commissioned it to, neoedo2009 on deviantart, wants pics of it for her website.

I have to mention her name and give her credit for making the sweater.

Pics incoming!

Chiyo-Chan is tired because she stayed up all night studying. Not a good enough excuse for sleeping in Yukari's class!

Please forgive my weeaboo-ness. I couldn't resist doing this with cup-noodles.

>>206148
Gordan Freeman?

>>206148>>206149>>206150>>206153>>206154>>206155>>206157

Yukari has rockin' tits, this guy has no tits.

Well, you look pretty teacher-y alright.

>>206159
Maybe he has a rockin' dick?

That's pretty awesome. In all the years I've been here I don't anyone has showed themselves doing any /azu/ related cosplay. If you're going to be at AX this year maybe we can team up - I'll be a half-black/spic Nyamo half nakid ;)

Oh,mein Gott........

You get points for actually wearing it.

Well done.

And, just in case some of you absolutely need to see it on a woman...

No offense man, but if I were you I'd consider getting a different haircut. ANY other kind.

>>206191
He should get one like SoDa.

>>206187
oh shit, is that pot plant the trick or treat buckets McDonald's use to give out during Halloween?

>>206201
That doesn't look like a pot plant to me.

...Is she reading the Bible?

>>206240
If she's anything like Yukari, it's probably a Bible like this one

>>206091

My goodness... I want that sweater.

>>206264
My goodness...I want that Bible.

>>206240
If Yukari were real, I would love to toke with her and listen to stories about her teaching experiences.

>>206466

it was so easy, i had to do it

>>206466
I just hope she isn't one of those stoner chicks that refuses to shave their armpits and take showers.

>>206240
I think >>206201 meant plant pot, not pot plant.

>>206473
Some people also say "pot plant" when they mean "potted plant."
Kind of like how some people say "drink driving" when they mean "drunk driving."

>>206475
hey I appreciate you getting my back, Ralen. you didn't have to do that, but the next time someone gives you shit about being chef gordon ramsay I'll fuck them, fuck them in the head.

>>206469
That would be great. I love those kind of girls. Stinky girl-pits and pot make me feel at peace with the world. I doubt a Japanese woman (especially one of Yukari's caliber) would permit herself to have body odor.

Also, if one feels like it, shop the leaf in >>206468 into a green pot leaf, Yukari's eyes into red, bloodshot eyes, and smiling mouth. If anything, make the leaf into pot. Please and thank you.

>>206477
'cause you asked so nicely.

A hero among men. Few think what they want. Even fewer try to get what they want.

Only you get what you want. Well done.

>>206487

Tomo has a gimped hand.

>>206483

Not to derail this thread even more than it already has been, but is there an anime out there that has a positive (or at least a neutral) stance on recreational drug use? Outside of drunkenness, of course.

>>206483
Thanks!

>>206492
Depends on what you see as positive; Serial Experiments: Lain, Red Garden, Cowboy Bebop, Welcome to NHK Boogiepop Phantom, etc. - maybe those aren't completely positive but they don't reach heroin levels.

Do they even do drugs in Japan?

The only drugs I've seen in anime are crazy scifi shit.

>>206495
yup

>>206495

What we may view as "crazy sci-fi shit" has actually been commonplace for years in the Great Nation of Japan.

>>206492

That's a good point! I have been watching anime for more than 10 years now, and while alcohol and cigarettes are VERY common, you don't see other drugs very often.

In fact, the only mention of other drugs that I can think of is when it is a specific part of the plot, as in Lain or Bebop. I can't recall any mention of simple recreational drug use in anime (again, except for the ever-present booze and cigs). Whoops, I lied. There is a scene in the first El-Hazard where Fujisawa-sensei runs out of cigs and smokes a rolled-up leaf from some random plant. I think he'd probably get along with Yukari really well....

>>206510
This is the only time I recall seeing drug use casually mentioned in anime/manga.

>>206515

Source?

>>206516
Mahoraba heartfull days

>>206510
Well, Ai Yazawa's Nana has got a character who's a crack addict, and another who's gotten arrested for possession of marijuana (which apparently gets a decent jail term over there). But they're rock stars, so maybe it's okay.

I had kind of wondered if there wasn't some weird censorship rule with drugs in manga, actually.

My uneducated guess would be that the people who use recreational drugs generally aren't the types to either draw or buy much manga. So if there were a few works that featured a group of friends sharing a joint without their lives falling into disarray, few publishers would want a piece of it because it might turn off their perceived audience or cause some controversy.

Do any of the major comic book publishers in the US print books that present drug use in a positive light (besides alcohol)?

>>206530

10 years ago? No. Now there are, mainly in the indipendant publishers. However, there's a good reason for that (in the USA anyway).

In the 1950's there was a moral panic in the US going on about how comic books were evil and so on. As a result, the comic book industry decided to self-regulate the content of comics and formed the "comics code". Until very recently almost all comics conformed to the CCA rules. There were a lot of rules, but some of the highlights:

The "good guys" always win over the "bad guys"
The use of drugs and alcohol was discouraged, and must be portrayed in a negative light.
No nudity or graphic violence
No vampires, werewolves, zombies, etc.
Police, judges, etc. must always be portrayed in a positive way.

anyway, that pretty much nixes any recreational drug use in western comics, at least until very recently when many publishers stopped adhering to the code.

...continued

I don't know about the laws in Japan, but I would assume that there was nothing similar. Part of the appeal of Manga in the west is that it doesn't follow the same "rules".

In most western comics the good guy always beats the bad guy, and there's a very clear sense of "right" and "wrong". Manga/anime doesn't follow those rules at all. Often times the "bad guys" win--and that's if there even is a clear distinction between the "bad guys" and "good guys". Manga also contained "adult content" of various sorts that simply never appeared in western comics, as well as graphic nudity, violence, and all the other things that the CCA banned.

Personally I think this was the reason for the huge surge in popularity of Anime/Manga in the west between the 90's and today. Western media followed "the rules" so consistently that there were no real surprises and the outcome of the story was pretty much a given. Then westerners discovered manga and all that went out the window. Suddenly we saw corrupt public officials, graphic violence, sex, vice, and you didn't always know if the good guys were going to win or not. It was a major breath of fresh air!

Independent comic book publishers started figuring this out in the last 10 years or so. Image comics, for example, got popular because they broke from tradition and started going beyond what the CCA allowed, and were very successful as a result of it.

>>206530

I wouldn't know about major publishers (which is not what the original poster asked, btw), but writers such as Grant Morrison and Warren Ellis have written positively about recreational drug use, at least as something normal. Morrison's "Invisibles" series comes to mind.

Has "American" become a dirty word in America or why is it that Americans nowadays constantly say "Western" when they mean "American"

>>206534
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_World

>>206535 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Link_To_A_Wikipedia_Article_And_Leave_It_To_Others_To_Guess_What_Point_I'm_Trying_To_Make_If_Any

>>206537
>>206535 linked directly to the post containing the question, then provided a link that contained the answer. Concise and easy to understand.

>>206538
The question was, if you take >>206538 literally, "Has 'American' become a dirty word in America?".

The actual, underlying question was, if I get >>206538 right, "Why does that guy talk about "Western" when he means "American?".

The "concise" article (several thousand words) gives a lot of definitions for "West" which we are all aware of, I think. None of those equates the West with the USA.

tl;dr I don't understand that either.

>>206541
The gist was that while America is a part of the west, western things are not exclusively American. "Western" encompasses the entirety of western civilized nations and their cultural views on things. This includes the United States, Canada, Western Europe, and possibly Australia.

>>206541
The original question contained several false assumptions that all seemed to stem from lack of familiarity with the term "Western", which most people learn in high school.
Chief among these are the perceptions that the use of "Western" is somehow recent and restricted solely to America, both of which even a cursory glace at the article would refute.
All of this would suggest that the original questioner's only exposure to the idea of "Western" is from anime image boards, where the distinction between Western and non-Western cultures are built into forum rules- forums which have only gained prominence in recent years, the same timeframe the questioner claims the term "Western" arose.
In other words, dumb questions can be prevented by even the smallest amount of research.

>>206544
That sounds better than what I said.

>>206534
pwned!

>>206531
Agreeing that as major US publishers go, not so much with the recreational drug use -- but underground/indie comics definitely figured out they didn't have to follow the CCA earlier than 10 years ago. Though I haven't read anything with an actual publishing house where drugs were casually used for non-comic effects and without immediate/negative consequences earlier than mid-80s-90s, with Love and Rockets.

>>206548
I just figured it wasn't so much of ignoring regulations or fallowing them, drugs just didn't seem to fit with the people writing about them.
Weren't pot jokes common in Doonesbury?

>>206544

> The original question contained several false assumptions that all seemed to stem from lack of familiarity with the term "Western", which most people learn in high school.

Eh ... duh? How do you get that idea?

As I read it >>206534 is well aware about the defintion of "Western". It's >>206531 who isn't (or much more likely simply doesn't give a shit). It's just that >>206534 used heavy sarcasm.

Bottom line,
>>206531 comes across as the steroetypical ugly American, >>206534 felt trolled and trolled back.

Be assured, I grew up with Western comics that where nothing like that, which might or might not be because they weren't American. But they weren't.

>>206549
...drugs just didn't seem to fit with the people writing about them.

? Sorry, not quite following, especially this bit. Doonesbury had pot jokes, but heck, if there's any drug I'd associate with a comic born during an American writer's liberal college years in the 60s, it'd be that.

>>206552
As in drugs weren't an integral part to any story for the writer to show in a "positive" light. To put it in context, drug using and dealing was common in gangster rap, but used in the same light in comics during that era with comic writers?
Unless there's a superhero out there that didn't gain his powers from radioactive insects and whatnot.

>>206551
How on earth did >>206531, >>206532 come across as ugly/trolling?

>>206534

Let's set this straight.

I wrote 206531 (and the immediate follow-up) and I used the word WESTERN becasue I meant WESTERN, and not USA only. If I had meant "USA" then I'd have said "USA".

I have lived in England, Canada, Denmark, and the USA and at least in my experience the content of comic books was very similar in all of those countries.

There were a few comics in Denmark which featured sex jokes which were a bit more risque than I'd expect to see in mainstream American comics. Likewise there were some older British comics (Viz magazine) which pushed "toilet humor" pretty hard, but in general I'd say the content of comics was very similar in all of those countries. And those particular exceptions were all in very silly, slapstick, sort of situations, not in comic titles with a serious tone and more realistic art style.

Obviously the CCA doesn't apply outside the USA, but the CCA rules did affect all the major blockbuster titles, as they came from American publishers. The Spider-Man comics I bought in Denmark were no different from US Spider-Man.

As in drugs weren't an integral part to any story for the writer to show in a "positive" light.

<-- Little Annie Fanny in 60s-80s Playboy? More about sex than drugs, more about satire than "serious" use, but pot, when used, was defended.

To put it in context, drug using and dealing was common in gangster rap, but used in the same light in comics during that era with comic writers?

During the era of gangster rap -- 80s-90s? I think Love and Rockets again fits... for example, in a scene one character has just dropped acid and is driving around a groupful of people; she frets a bit, but no one else is concerned and her friend tells her what's really gonna kill her is cheap beer. In the early 90s, a couple of stories show a lot of casual drug use between characters, including a whole family that smokes pot (though it's generally matter-of-fact to positive about pot and pretty negative about heroin). But yeah, again an indie publisher.

Unless there's a superhero out there that didn't gain his powers from radioactive insects and whatnot.

True enough with superheros (though the argument's been made about Popeye :P).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Japanese people simply don't use as many "recreational" drugs as Americans do. Methamphetamine (which the Japanese invented) was historically the biggest drug of abuse in Japan, together with huffing of various sorts. Cocaine and pot are certainly present in Japan, but not nearly as common as in the U.S. Japanese certainly like to drink; what about alcohol abuse? Does alcoholism get discussed much in manga?

>>206562
I'd say yeah, alcoholism does get a lot of manga coverage, though usually it's played for laughs. You get the wacky drunkard regularly in shounen manga. As for the negative sides of alcohol abuse, it's a lot less common, though it shows up here or there in abusive/self-destructive characters. Mostly alcohol is an excuse to carry a cute passed-out girl home, though I might be wrong.

rape and incest are covered in manga more than drugs and alcohol

I hear divorce is taboo in japan too