you're awesome

Yay! Thank you Ralen! You're awesome.

Koiwai again demonstrates his parenting skills.

Thanks a lot for the translation. Much appreciated, as always.

The last few pages of this Yotsuba& chapter might be one of the most interesting moments of the series. How often does the comic stray from "enjoy everything" mode?

Also, has anyone ever read Same Difference by Derek Kirk Kim? This chapter reminds me of my favorite part in that comic.

Spoilers (though some of the details might be a bit off, it's been awhile since I read it):

A blind young woman is telling a story from her childhood where her mother was asking her about a similar broken dish (or something) and she lied about it. Her mother then tells her that she has a magic bag with a monster inside it that can tell when someone is lying. The mother tells her daughter to put her hand inside, and she says that the monster will bite her hand off if she's lying. The mother asks her again if she broke the thing, and again she lies. The woman telling the story says that, as a child, she fully believed her mother's story about the monster, but she still lied. She didn't know why, but she was ready to have her hand bitten off rather than admit to the inconsequential wrongdoing.

This story has broader meaning in the context of the rest of the comic, and I'm not doing it justice, but it was a great moment that really stuck with me.

Anyway, thanks again for the translation.

Why can't this be an anime? I really want to see the part where Yotsuba uses all her creativity to get out of trouble.

And Koiwai, holy jeebus, kowai. That trauma with the graveyard and the Nio was temporarily forgotten after he became all nice again, but that's the sort of stuff that keeps therapists employed.

>>209323
Oops, forgot to do the one thing I meant to do in my post. Thanks as always, Ralen!

Lies!?

Yotsuba never lies!

Let's give thanks to the Japanese Scanner God and Ralen, Bringer of Scans.

That was fucking awesome of Koiwai. When a kid comes up with "a wizard did it!" excuse you put an end to that right away.
It's too bad there isn't anything like that here in the States where I live. There are these crazy hobos, but they probably wouldn't get the message across the same way. There's also the Scared Straight method, but that's a bit extreme.

It looks like Asagi is in heat, too. That's good to know.

GOD

F***ING

DAMN

Asagi is looking MIGHTY FINE on this first page.

The second as well.

>>209322
I've seen a few pages of Same Difference several years ago, but I don't remember much about it.

I thought this chapter had a good balance of humor and heart warming. I really liked seeing Koiwai get all serious and fatherlike at the end.

>>209323

>That trauma with the graveyard and the Nio was temporarily forgotten after he became all nice again, but that's the sort of stuff that keeps therapists employed.

Maybe, but I'll bet she'll never lie again.

>>209326
Some people may give me crap for this translation, but she literally says a magician did it.
The word she uses (手品) doesn't have any supernatural connotations, but strictly refers to magic as a form of stagecraft (it can also be used to refer to street performers, jugglers, etc.)
The similarity was just too close for me to pass up using "A wizard did it" though.

Oh yeah, also, did anyone else get the impression that Asagi was maybe a little tired and just trying to get Yotsuba out of her hair?

>>209329
Asagi is lazy.

Hm, even though I proofread this, I still just found two typos.
Here are the corrections (this page originally said "And then stranger" instead of "And then a stranger"

>>209331
And then this one I spelled "Sorry" with only one R.

>>209327

She sure is. Bloody gorgeous. Leggy, not overly chesty, lovely long hair.

>>209329
Asagi probably was, to a degree, but still played along. Plus, she's lazy as the other poster indicated.

I know this may be off topic, but didn't Azuma say he was quitting Yotsuba soon and that he was starting something else after that?

Torako is one lucky butch.

>>209334
I thought that was an April Fool's joke. He's apparently looking for assistants according to the text in Ralen's translation, so if he's staffing up, it's a sign he's probably not quitting very soon.

where do you get that?

n @Ralen (team)
thank you very much

Repeating the same words expresses echo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6z61B4MPuQ

Good chapter, cheers to the scanners and Ralen for the translation.

I appreciate Daddy's attempts to correct Yotsuba's lying(although he lied himself to do it, but eh, that's neither here nor there).
I generally like his gentleness in these matters.

Thanks Ralen.

I wish I had a kid I could sporadically traumatize and terrorize. I'll have to get one right away.

Thank yous to Ralen and anyone else involved in bringing this to us. This chapter had a huge "AWWWWWW" factor to it. Yotsuba learns that she isn't smart enough to talk her way out of a bad situation.

But something tells me she's going to keep trying.

And I love how Asagi just casually gives away Fuuka's stuff. This is going to end in a huge hair-pulling, clothes-ripping catfight.

>>209339
Hm, I wondered what the repetition was for. I thought it might have been a little song or something.

>>209334
I don't recall ever hearing that. The last I heard he said he didn't want to work on anything else (like an anime) because he was too busy with Yotsuba.

Have I mentioned lately how much I appreciate your existence Ralen? Thanks yet again.

I tell ya. The only people lazier than Asagi are the mods at 4chan. Downloads at the "Yotsuba" link (on the top of every page her)only goes to Chapter 62, while "read on line" goes through chapter 66. C'mon, guys. Get it in gear, willya?!

Hey! HEY! Did I get your damned attention?!

Thanks for the manga.

Asagi mentions that Fuuka's never going to lose weight

Yotsuba is scared out of lying.

Yes, this is going to be a good combination...

>>209351
wtf, man.

>>209351

God DAMMIT!!

Does anyone know of a mediafire account or some site that has updated yotsuba ddl links? 4chan.biz hasn't been updated in a while.

I've uploaded the files not included in 4chan.biz to:
http://www.mediafire.com/yotsuba

I'll try my best to update this. And if anyone has any problems with me uploading to this site, tell me.

Thank you Ralen.

I see it as Yotsuba&truth though

Great chapter. Thanks to Ralen; you are indeed awesome. As is Koiwai. (Wonder if he lied about the Nio's eyes lighting up, though -- the sneaky vc:bastett.)

Is Mr. Koiwai a hipster?

>>209368
I don't think so, but then he did want a latte machine, didn't he?

>>209334
Just WHEN is he going to wrap this up? Azu Daioh ended when? 2003? that's almost ten years,I can appreciate the fans of this but I dislike kids and want something new......

Of course he may just start a new "cute kid" manga,at that I'll be quitting him forever,I don't like this kind of stuff.

>>209351
Wow, I guess that morality troll was right. This hasn't been removed yet.

>>209370

I just noticed his outfit. Young guy in a cardigan, skinny jeans, probably vans.

Works from homes, white collar/liberal arts qualified job. Enjoys coffee and smoking.

>>209375
Why would anyone remove a picture of Yotsuba crying into Daddy's lap?
It's obvious she's just upset about breaking the dishes.

>>209371
Can you please quit him forever, like, right now, so we don't have to listen to this same broken-record tirade every time this gets mentioned?

Wow. Just wow. Probably my favorite Yotsuba chapter in years. So full of emotions, atmosphere and drama. Also, when Koiwai said "It's your job to make mistakes", I almost cried. Almost.

>>209386
Was this chapter the most "serious" the comic has gotten? I can't think of any other moments off the top of my head that were even somewhat similar in tone to the last few pages of this chapter.

>>209377
...Really can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

>>209383
huh, I didn't think this bloke had posted in months. Then again, I haven't been active lately. Did I miss him?

>>209361
So you are saying the creator of the manga is wrong?

Like I'm going to take the opinion of a fucking weeaboo, over what the creator of the series has written.

>>209393
......what?

>>209393

Jesus calm down

Fuck me. I almost cried this chapter.

>>209393

Only a true weeaboo would respond like this. Anyone else would have shrugged off the comment as a joke, sarcasm, or else say something like 'yeah' or ignore it.

>>209383
I almost have,only been lurking in the shadows and snagging new pics from Azu or Fuuka or Asagi.

>>209391
I've almost nothing to talk of,I dislike kids and "cute kid" comics/manga,shows etc. annoy me,if he does something I like then I wouldn't bitch.
But he seems to be firmly in the cute kid mode and it's sad as it's taken over his work.

So fuck you Azuma,your work sucks and I hope she dies of the clap and AIDS.

>>209404

Wow. Given the title is the kid's name, complaining about it being about her is like complaining the ocean's awful because it's full of water.

You need to find another manga to read.

>>209407
I have,been into anime since 1982 so the loss of one artist is nothing,I just wish he tried doing something else his humor is good and I enjoyed Azu a lot.

Alas I feel he's going to devote himself to the whole cute kid ting and that is that.

And I know it's named after her,I don't give a shit I hate the whole manga,Pretty Neighbor was better,at least we got to see Fuuka and Asagi getting their brains fucked out (though I want more day-to-day with them.)

I'm enjoying Koji Kumeta's work now,man is insane.

I, too, have been wondering when Azuma's going to wrap up Yotsuba, and I like the series. Does anyone know if he's said anything?

lol why u so mad?

>>209436

So you think the manga is supposed to be lime a h-doujin someone else did? You really ought to read another manga, unless your life is so pitiful that you read Yotsuba so you have something to bitch about to make yourself feel that you have some power over something. Which you don't get by complaining, by the way.

Thirty years? Wow, if you feel compelled to read a manga you hate so you can whine on a forum, then you really need to get a life.

Pretty Neighbor was drawn by Azuma, it was simply published under a "pen name" to maintain plausible deniability. That sort of thing is common in the Manga industry.

>>209443

>>209443
I don't believe it for a second. Pretty Neighbor has a very different style, as the mangaka draws far more detail in their mouths, the eyes look different, the noses have actual shapes when viewed from the side, he draws tongues/teeth which Azuma very rarely does, he exaggerates the overbite in all of the girls, the girls are noticeably skinnier than they are in the canon, and the fingernails actually look pretty good.

Just because it's good art doesn't mean it has to be the original artist. If you check out older versions of Pretty Neighbor (there are remakes of old chapters with improved art), you'll even see that the characters don't start to look like the canon until Pretty Neighbor 5. You could be easily fooled if the only one you've ever read is Volume 6 though, since Fuuka looks VERY close to the canon in that one.

>>209404
>>209436
No seriously, we don't need your life story. Go away.

>>209445
The guy who drew Pretty Neighbor has a legit series running in the same magazine as Yotsubato these days.

>>209452

>>legit

This is a few days overdue, but I realize that this Chapter technically should be Chapter 67, not 68 as the chapter before this one was technically Chapter 66.5

>>209471
Well, when Azuma split chapter 54 (the festival chapter) into two different issues, he still called both of them chapter 54.

When he split the last one into two different issues though, he numbered them differently. Yotsuba & The Electronics Store was chapter 66, and Yotsuba & The Electronics Store Pt. 2 was chapter 67.

My guess is that when volume 10 is released in the near future, chapter 67 will get a different title.

Kind of like how the original 'Yotsuba & The Farm' (chapter 44, where she gets a fever and they don't go to the farm) was renamed 'Yotsuba & The Fever' when Volume 7 was released.

>>209473

We'll see eventually.

Also, someone needs to talk to the mods, I think the "Delete Post" forum function is broken; I tried to fix my double post in this thread but when I clicked on the Delete Post button, the site says I have the incorrect password. I have my cookies enabled and I had the verification code correct but as I said above, the site says I have the incorrect password.

I am lost.

>>209477
I don't know what to tell you, I use the 'Delete Post' function all the time when I make typos, or forget to attach my image, etc.

I haven't used it lately though, so I can't say for sure it still works. In any case, I have no control over that.

ahaha oh wow into anime since 1982

guys we have a real connoisseur here

>>209487
Hey now,I cut my teeth with Captain Harlock,Star Blazers and then Robotech so watch yer mouth kid.

I just find displeasure in the fact the "Azumanga" board is almost overrun with a new series that I care very little about,I say rename it "Azuma" and be done with it.

I'm done with this,go enjoy your little cute kid crap,I'm moving on to better stuff-Azuma isn't coming back as far as I can tell,he had a great run with Wallby and Azumanga but he's gone on a path I can't follow.

Look for me on the anime or other boards,I'll be here looking or pics but I doubt I'll post here much anymore,I can see the hate starting-I want no part of that shit.

>>209493

Robotech? Now I know you're trolling or an impostor. Any Otaku worth his dakimakura knows that THERE IS NO ROBOTECH. There is only Macross.

>>209494
I started with that,back then the idea of getting the original was at best a hard to achieve dream,I have watched the original now and honestly can't stand the "Americanized" version.

I come from a time when "subbed" anime didn't exist,you took what you could find the real start of me being a real anime nut was finding Streamline in the early 90's,then the subbed versions and then......

Let's put it this way I've been known to spend almost $100 to buy direct from Japan manga.

>>209495

I know what you mean, I was just 'messing with you. I was surprised to see an old-school fan actually utter the word "robotech"

By the way, I was into anime at that time too. Streamline seemed OK at first but it didn't take long before Carl Macek's horrible editing become obvious. His shitty editing (as with others at the time) had me quite upset. Ironically, he did a pretty good job with Doomed Megalopolis.

I got so tired of lack of properly translated titles I simply said screw it, started taking Japanese classes and importing laserdiscs. You want to talk about expensive? Try 10,000 yen for 30 minutes of OVA. The most I ever paid for a single title was $600 for a used copy of 5 Star Stories. But god, it was worth it. Brilliant video quality and no hack-job editing. A long-running OVA or TV series would get very expensive in a hurry when there were multiple discs involved. But, back then you could make back a lot of that money by selling masters to fansubbers.

>>209497
LOL I get ya man,hell Harlock,Star Blazers,Voltron etc.all of them were not "original" but they were a "gateway" of sorts to a young anime fan...now we watch the originals and wonder just how we managed to like the chopped-to-hell versions!

I take it I'm of the second wave of Americans who liked anime as the 60's had Astro Boy,Speed Racer,Giagantor and the like,I was born in '75 so I rode the second wave to come in-and we are the ones who started to bring in the original stuff in.

Damn we're old!

I've been into anime since 1975(ish) starting with Heidi which was an anime about a cute girl doing cute things.

Also, I'm totally awesome.

Therefore, I win by default. Twice.

>>209497

>started taking Japanese classes and importing laserdiscs.

Did that actually work?
I've been wondering how much longer it will be before I can start enjoying Japanese shows unsubbed.

You all is simply noobs! I been watching anime since 1969 when I watched "Kimba the white Lion" translated on TV in Bulgaria. Yes, there IS such a country and YES were were way ahead of USA when it came to anime. Yes I'm THAT olde.

>>209502

Very well actually, though there are a few caveats. You'll learn normal conversational Japanese very quickly. But, it won't do much for your reading or especially writing skills. My oral Japanese is light-years ahead of my Kanji skills. Then again, I hardly ever read Manga. Perhaps if I was interested in Manga more, then it would be the opposite?

Also, I found it much more difficult to keep up with titles that have a lot of unusual terminology such as the occult or military-basted titles. They don't teach those terms in class and you certainly don't use them in everyday speech.

My advice is to jump right in. You obviously understand a lot of Japanese given your translating. Just start watching raws. Sure, you won't understand things 100% at first, but you'll learn quickly when you aren't using the crutch of subtitles. In fact, given your translating skills I'm shocked that you don't watch raws.

>>209504
Well, I don't watch anime very often, and the ones I do make a point to watch, I want to enjoy for the content, not watch as a learning tool, so I'll usually just watch them subbed (or occassionally dubbed).

Although with the last series I watched (Taisho Baseball Girls) I noticed myself listening to the actual dialogue a lot more than I had in the past and noting things like "I think they screwed that line up" or "I might have translated that as..." or "That's an interesting interpretation of a stock phrase" etc.

I spent the spring watching the educational series "Yan San and the Japanese People" which was very helpful, but now that I've finished both sets, it would be nice to find something else similar to that.

>>209505

I didn't mean to imply that you should "watch as a learning tool" and set enjoyment aside. Just watch whatever you want to watch but leave the subs off. That's it. I'm sure you'll find that you can enjoy the show just fine even if you don't understand the dialouge 100%. (for most shows, anyway)

I found this method to work well becasue it was enjoyable, rather than cramming from a textbook all the time.

>>209506
That might work better for series I've already seen once, or ones I'm not particularly interested in.
It's not a matter of setting enjoyment aside, but I just know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it like that. I would end up pausing every time I heard something I wasn't familiar with to go look it up, or replaying parts over and over where I couldn't quite understand what's being said, rather than being able to relax and simply watch.

But you know, I was the same way with manga when I started learning Japanese. I used to only want to read Yotsuba after someone else had translated it so I wouldn't go through the stress and effort of trying to translate and interpret every little thing at the expense of my enjoyment. Of course, now that I'm more skilled than I used to be, I prefer to read the raws first for most series I'm interested in.
(Although I still go back to my own translations when I'm in the mood for a re-reading).

>>209505

>"I noticed myself listening to the actual dialogue...."
>Point out mistakes in translation...

You do that too? I dunno, it's kind of like a sixth sense, I can tell if a translation is off, even though my Nihon-fu isn't the best.

>>209503

'67, dude. Just missed the first run when it premiered in the NYC area the year before. But, hey, I was only 7 at the time.

>>209512

1966, first-run. I was 5. Here in L.A. it aired on the NBC affiliate. Kimba was the first show that rivalled Bugs Bunny toons in my heart. I completely missed the Astro Boy phenomenon that had hit a year or two before, though.

After Kimba, it was Tetsujin 28-go aka Gigantor, and Speed Racer. I spent a lot of time building Gigantor control boxes and Mach-5s out of cardboard. But after that, anime import visibility dropped out of sight.

Of course, every time I post about Kimba, I also have to post the link to the page that talks about how The Lion King ripped off Kimba so drastically. . .

http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm

>>209513
Wow, crap. So it was a remake? That explains the unexpected quality of that film.

>>209505

Yan-san? I remember watching that in Japanese class every couple of Fridays.

>>209493

i watched those when i was a wee lad too, so you can shut it, old man.

go on get outta here

>>209514
most of the good American movies are remakes of other countries' movies. The Magnificent Seven is a remake of The Seven Samurai, Star Wars is a remake of The Hidden Fortress Yojimbo was remade into that Bruce Willis movie and so on.

>>209518

>most of the good American movies are remakes of other countries' movies.

No, most of the good American movies aren't remakes of other countries movies. Citizen Kane isn't a remake, Casablanca isn't a remake, 2001: A Space Odyssey isn't a remake, Vertigo isn't a remake, Blazing Saddles isn't a remake, Vanishing Point isn't a remake, Eraserhead isn't a remake, etc. etc.

There are many fine remakes, and many fine originals. But if you're doing a remake/reimagining/rewhatever, give some credit to the original(s).

In the case of Kimba/Lion King, it seems Disney was pretty open about the debt to Tezuka up till the point where they lost the court battle for the rights to the original TV series. Then, it was like "Tezuka who? Kimba what?"

>>209514

The Lion King is a retelling of Hamlet with lions in Africa instead of people and doesn't owe nearly as much to Kimba as weeaboos would like you to believe.

Weeaboos would also like for you to believe that Star Wars owes more to Japan than various European writen epics. They're pretty weak that way.

But then, those people think EVERYTHING came from Japan.

>>209521
Don't forget what we think about Nadia and Disney's Atlantis

>>209523

>>Nadia

lol. 20,000 Leagues Under the Lack of Japanese Creativity.

>>209521
The Hamlet link is there, but the side-by-side visual comparison is kind of damning. I don't think Lion King is so much a rip-off of Kimba as it is heavily inspired by. Heavily inspired by, without credit.

Well, the East and the West have a long history of somewhat stealing from each other, don't they? Star Wars is inspired by Eastern philosophy (George Lucas said it). The Spaghetti-westerns are heavily inspired by samurai movies, so those genres kind of cross over. And Japan steals from the West too (think steampunk, or certain Miyazaki movies for example), so it's not like one came first or something.

>>209383
There was time when people here agreed with Krull, but they're gone now, so... Hey, I hate kids, too, but I like the characters.

>>209445
Direction is different, as well. Azuma doesn't get too abstract with the scenery, as detailed as they are. Although, was the mangaka of Pretty Neighbor now working on Degenki Daioh, too? I wonder if they ever met...

>>209521
Lucas wanted Toshiro Mifune to be Obi Wan Kenobi (even the name, geez) which would have been AWESOME, the "telling the story from the viewpoint of the lowliest characters" of The Hidden Fortress was where R2D2 and C3PO came from, and Jedi Knights are pretty transparently inspired by Samurai and Zen philosophy. Don't front.

>>209521

Well, if you want to go back to basics there's really only a handful of different story types, and every novel, movie, TV program, or play is really just a retelling of one of those few basic stories.

However, in the case of Lion King and Kimba, the copying is downright obvious. It's not just a similar plot, even the visuals are outright copies, down to some very small details.

>>209524

Have you even read 20,000 leagues and watched Nadia? The only similarity is there exists a submarine named the Nautilus with a captain Nemo. Beyond that, there is no similarity between the two whatsoever. The plot and characters are completely different.

Do you think we should tell the weeaboos about Kurosawa's Ran and King Lear?

Or maybe how Lupin III was swiped from a French detective novel? Since that's anime, they're probably more likely to recognize it.

>>209542
I didn't answer about the Nadia comment because it was pretty high on the troll meter.

>>209545

I don't think anyone is disputing any of that. I think the point was simply that Lion King ripped off Kimba, even down to the art. End of story. There's nothing mutually exclusive about any of this.

>>209545
Of course Ran and Lupin III are derivative works, but Kurosawa and Monkey Punch never said they weren't. Of course cultural "borrowing" flows in both directions.

But what we're talking about here is acknowledgement. Before losing the court case, the lion cub was white and may well have been named Kimba (if you go by Roy Disney's quote). After losing the court case, the cub turned brown and was named something completely different. And Disney's stance was that they'd never heard of Tezuka and never seen Kimba. It's not "weeaboo" thinking, it's unsupportable and it's wrong.

>>209550
I think >>209545 was more directed at >>209518 who was implying that most good American films were copies of successful Japanese films.

Most movies are a waste of time, anyway. I see them all as compilations of other films.

Return of the Living Dead was pretty good, though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV1FKU9Oihw

>>209553
I wasnt just implying, I was citing the names of actual movies.

>>209574
Not good enough for proof.