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 No.488

After about 500 hours with the colorize mask tool in Krita using eyedropped colors from the anime I've colored about 20% of a page. Only about 1450.8 more pages to go until Ichigo Mashimaro is in full color!

 No.489

>>488
Looks great!

 No.490

Looks great!
I bet there are better ways to do it though. Maybe use AI?

 No.491

>>490
No, fuck off.

 No.492

>>490
I don't think any AI can color without messing up lineart yet, like a drooling autistic savant that can paint any photorealistic picture you request in seconds but can't figure out how a coloring book works.

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>>490
I'm afraid AI just isnt there yet.

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The clothes take at least 15x longer than the heads, now I understand why more hentai doujins are in color than official manga.

 No.511

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Their adorable faces look so much better in color. Maybe someday someone who's as much of a fashion enthusiast as Barasui will color the clothes too.

 No.513

>>511
Can they be considered colored people now?

 No.517

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Added more detail to Matsuri's outfit and made Chi and Nobue's hair shinier.
>>513
No the japs are honorary whites.

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Paint bucket with grow set to 1px (plus a little manual painting) on a layer below the lineart is less of a pain in the ass than the colorize mask.

 No.523

>>517
>the japs are honorary whites
No... I mean, maybe, but I meant they were literally white before, and now they have been colored.

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blonde Nobue

 No.525

I like how you make Matsuri slightly paler than the rest.

I used to buy old manga back in the day, and then I guess some American and European publishers didn't like to sell comics in black and white so they colored them. They never looked right.
It was a lot of extra work for them, and I wonder if it even made sense financially to color them. Like, I guess they figured they would sell less if they were B&W?
That's probably what they were thinking, and it's probably a wrong assumption.

 No.526

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>>525
If they did even a halfway decent job with the coloring then of course they sold more, especially if the manga was more about looking at cute girls than story.

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>>526
>If they did even a halfway decent job with the coloring then of course they sold more
Well, maybe. Specially back then when people weren't used to manga. In a market where most B&W comics were independent and subversive, I guess it must have been harder to sell manga without color. They flopped the pages too, of course.
The ones I bought weren't colored as well as this. Probably because back then they didn't have digital tools.

>especially if the manga was more about looking at cute girls than story.

I didn't read CGDCT back then. I didn't even know such things existed. These were action and sci-fi manga.

Are you a person that likes manga but wishes they were all in color all the time?
Does the fact that more often than not they are B&W ruin it a bit for you?

 No.529

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>>528
This is actually the first non-H manga I've ever found interesting enough to read more than a few pages of so I wouldn't say I'm a person that likes manga, and it sucks that it's not in color. Even just the characters being in color makes it significantly more enjoyable to look at and as a hobby this is far less of a waste of time than playing video games like I used to do all day.

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>>517
that looks good dood

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 No.549

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That's the end of chapter 1. Is it more enjoyable to read with just the girls in color for anyone else or just for me?

 No.550

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 No.551

its good bara changed designs, no way to tell miu and chika apart

 No.552

I really like it half-colored like this. very stylistic, i guess i could say. Good job! ^.^

 No.553

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>>551
Yeah in chapter 2 Miu gets pigtails so it's easier.
>>552
It's more of an "I'd like to finish this in ~2 years instead of ~20 years" decision than a stylistic choice but I'm satisfied with how it looks too.

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Pages like this look like they're the most in need of improvement.

 No.577

>>576
Because they're so empty?

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>>577
I mean like shading or something more than just the pixel art brush.

 No.580

>>579
cursed miu

 No.581

>>576
I like this one

 No.583

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Chapter 2 complete.

 No.585

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 No.586

Are you really gonna color the whole thing? Pretty impressive.

 No.587

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>>586
Maybe but some things like the parts of Matsuri's hair under the translucent thing on her head here are above my skill level.

 No.592

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 No.618

On average, how long does each page take?

 No.620

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>>618
A few hours. Nobue's hair takes longer than everything else combined and the mouths can take a while to get looking just right. Nobue's hair becomes black in the next chapter but at the same time Miu's hair stops being black and it looks like it'll be just as time-consuming. Volume 2 looks a bit easier because thicker lines means paint bucket can do more of the work.

I don't know when I'll have time to continue this if ever but anyone who wants to can go ahead. I'm pretty sure anyone can upload to the MangaDex entry. If anyone wants the color layers or Krita save files I can upload all of them to some temporary file hosts. Here's an unfinished page 42.

 No.687

FYI apparently a lot of mangaka don't like this:
https://twitter.com/bestgirlyazy/status/1777546424579973556

 No.691

>>687
Link doesn't work, what did it say? Also I wonder how mangaka are going to feel when AI gets good enough to color manga which could be any day now or a few years at most.

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>>691
used google to find some replies, i assume it just said what anon did, that "mangaka dont like fan coloring"
it seems to have stirred controversy and received alot of sarcasm.

 No.695

>>691
>>694
https://archive.is/hQbsV
And here's what it was quoting, directly from a mangaka: https://twitter.com/Saitamagoated/status/1777498362922909896

Also fuck off with your AI slop claims.

 No.699

>>687
>99.9% of mangaka don't like this
>source: twitter user with pronouns in bio
>>695
AI art is almost perfect, as soon as it can figure out how to draw fingers and a few other things better then all manga can be remastered by AI and most new manga can just be made by AI.

 No.700

No AI-generated images. Thanks.

 No.705

>>700
What? Is that a rule?
Not even AI of characters relevant to the board?

 No.744

>>705
Personally I'd prefer not to see AI slop here, especially if it's instead of real artwork by real people of which there's a vast and ever-growing amount. If multiple others highly object to this, feel free to discuss in >>1.



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